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Basmore Lane

Once again there is an issue about ownership of the riverside green in Basmore Lane.CCTV cameras have now been installed but not by the parish Council. My property deeds entitle me to land a boat there. Dinah Green told me some years ago that this land had belonged to her parents and was gifted to the people of Shiplake Village in perpetuity when the Bolney Estate was disbanded. We need absolute clarity about the status of this village resource so we are not in danger of losing it.

Posted by: Liz james | 08/10/2018 1:20 pm

It does not appear that anyone is disputing the right of access in question but if so I have the deeds of my property and all the conveyancing documents raised during various changes of ownership dating back to 1919. It is stated in each of these deeds that the land in question was set aside for residents of the village to use as access to the river. There is a plan with the documents showing the location. I am happy to show them to anyone who is in any doubt about the legality.

Posted by: Edward P Harding | 09/10/2018 1:14 pm

As regular users of the green (outlined below) we are obviously keen to maintain our right to use it. We are also aware of that the green does not maintain itself, so a big thank you to those who do.

Posted by: John Crawford | 09/10/2018 11:41 am

I would like to clarify the reason for the CCTV, and reassure anyone who may have jumped to the wrong conclusion.
As others have pointed out, there was a prolonged period this year where large groups of teenagers would meet and hold parties on the green several times a week. The result of these parties, aside from much unsociable conduct late into the night, was an astonishing amount of litter and discarded food, along with significant damage to the green and the lane itself... continues

Posted by: Richard Bell | 09/10/2018 10:29 am

... No amount of reasoning lessened the frequency of these gatherings or the damage they caused, and after these teenagers became increasingly confrontational towards the residents, the camera was installed as a last resort. It has worked well in this regard, and has lessened the instances of other anti-social behaviour... continues

Posted by: Richard Bell | 09/10/2018 10:28 am

... Upkeep of the green and making it an attractive part of the village requires a lot of work, and this is carried out entirely by the residents of Basmore Lane. Please be assured efforts to maintain this lovely spot have absolutely nothing to do with ownership of the green or restricting access to the river, and the only people who should feel deterred from using it are those that abuse it and ruin its enjoyment for others.

Posted by: Richard Bell | 09/10/2018 10:27 am

Perhaps we could ask the parish Council to look into it with all the vil lagers who have papers relating to it to all collaborate. We could perhaps detail all. The areas where different houses have rights over so it is clear for the future.

Posted by: Joanne Stone | 09/10/2018 10:18 am

I grew up in Basmore from54 .The Green was for launching and landing small craft if you lived in Basmore and several other, but not all , houses in Lower Shiplake.We all made sure it was well cared for.I knew Dinah's parents and I think this was probably gifted just after the war.
Good that it's still being used but sadly it seems to have been abused this summer.Loads of people taking it over as a picnic ground and mounds of litter . Cctv seems sensible .I bet it's good neighbours who rescue it

Posted by: Kate Crossley | 08/10/2018 3:41 pm

Having security cameras installed does not necessarily mean that there is an issue with village rights to the landing. Many people install security cameras as a deterrent. This could be considered an advantage and a benefit. It may deter those not entitled to use he landing or anyone with criminal intent operating from the river. Has the question been raised with the installer?

Posted by: Edward P Harding | 08/10/2018 3:07 pm

We belong to Henley Sailing Club, which is just across the river, and have always seen the river as the primary way to and from the club. We have frequently launched and recovered boats across Basmore Lane since 1984. We have never asked anyone for permission.
We have also used the green for the occasional picnic with our children & grandchildren.
We always try to leave the green as we found it.

Posted by: John Crawford | 08/10/2018 2:15 pm

I rather doubt that historical records will provide absolute clarity on ownership. Maybe some community spirit might resolve the issue though. This is the only access point that that mejority of residents have to the river. Shame if someone were to try to limit it.

Posted by: will stevens | 08/10/2018 2:06 pm

County Council records show that the land was entered onto the Common Land Register under reference CL91 on 8th July 1968, however at some point it was cancelled and is no longer registered. This does not mean that other rights of use do not exist. Also, further rights may or may not have been obtained via common usage. Owners with references in their deeds are in the best position to help clarify the situation.

Posted by: Cllr David Bartholomew | 08/10/2018 1:50 pm

yes,Liz,this has always been our interpretation of the situation.

Posted by: louise webb | 08/10/2018 1:39 pm

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